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已有 5212 次阅读 2012-5-18 17:14 |系统分类:论文交流| 参考文献, 文章, 邮件, 公开

玩科学网已经有一段日子了,昨天才申请开通博客,今天就审核通过了。看到头条科学网编辑关于张虎不实信息的道歉书,想来自己也是赶巧了,要不然更严格的审核应该就正好落我头上了。
前几天看到机械的一个同学吐槽了某期刊一大牛文章的参考文献,这里就拿之前我对一条参考文献的困惑开始我的科学网博客。本来邮件往来是比较私人的,但是考虑到邮件内容都为纯粹学术讨论,并未涉及私人领域;而且邮件的始末都是来源于公开的信息,所以希望不被大家吐槽。
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来源与C&G上的一条参考文献,检索的时候失败了就询问原作者。

Dear Prof. Cheng
 
Sorry to disturb you and occupy your time skiming over my email.
 
Hereby I am asking for answers about one confusion originating from your article " Limit equilibrium method based on an approximate lower bound method with a variable factor of safety that can consider residual strength"  in Computer and Geotechnics 38(2011):623-637(see Fig.1).
Fig.1 the article I am reading

When I am searching for reference[15] in this article with the title "Determination of the bounds to the factor of safety and the evaluation of f(x) in slope stability analysis by lower bound method" that is also created by you as the corresponding author, a dilemma comes into being: as cited in the reference, the ref.[15] should be published in Journal of Geotechnical and Geoenvironmental Engineering ASCE 2010, 136(8):1003-1013 (see Fig.2), whereas I cannot locate the ref.[15] in the ASCE database (see Fig.3,http://ascelibrary.org/gto/resource/1/jggefk/v136/i8) according to the above address. Actually, when I searching for ref.[15] in the whole ASCE database, it responses that "no results found", the same response can be observed even searching in Google Scholar Search Engine.

Fig.2 the information of ref.[15] given in the reference

Fig.3 Web page of JGGE ASCE 2010, volume 136, issue 8

It should be noted that reference gives the pages of ref.[15] ranging from pp.1003 to pp.1013(Fig.2) in vol.136, no.8, but the ASCE website indicates that the page range of 136(8) is pp.1011-1165 and that of 136(7) is pp.897-1009 (see Fig.4,ttp://ascelibrary.org/gto/resource/1/jggefk/v136/i7). Both the ranges are circled in red in Fig.3 and Fig.4. It is not normal for a famous magazine  to divide one article into two issues, where pp.1003-1009 in issue 7 and pp.1010-1013 in issue 8 without the possibility that pp.1010 could be the cover.

Fig.4 Web page of JGGE ASCE 2010, volume 136, issue 7

In conclusion, some mistakes either in word editing or in citation information should made in the reference about ref.[15] of the article in C&G. With the consideration of academic rigour, I look forward to some explanations and corrections along with pardon to the venture of a infant student from Prof. Cheng.

Postscript: if possible, I would like to ask for Prof. Cheng to send me the online unaccessible PDF or manuscript of the article "Determination of the bounds to the factor of safety and the evaluation of f(x) in slope stability analysis by lower bound method", whcih should be an important literature in my paper review.

能得到大牛的回复已经是很不容易了,虽然足够简短,也比台湾的很多教授懒得回复要好得多。

As seen, it is from 1103-1113. Unless ASCE hard copy print use a 
different page number

Dr. Cheng

事实上,我确实把页码搞错了,丢大了。大牛确实足够宽容,还是回复了。我赶紧认错,进一步探讨困惑原因。

Dear Dr. Cheng
 
Thanks for your clarification and I recognize that I made a big mistake in addressing this article refered as pp.1103-1113 that was seen as pp.1003-1013 in wrong. I appologize for this to you and ask for your pardon.
 
In fact, as seen in the figure below, the ASCE online accessible article in volume 136, issue 8, pp.1103-1113 is titled as "Evaluation of Interslice Force Function and Discussion on Convergence in Slope Stability Analysis by the Lower Bound Method", but not "Determination of the bounds to the factor of safety and the evaluation of f(x) in slope stability analysis by lower bound method" that is not adopted by JGGE of ASCE, even both of the two titles lead to the same article. I think it is the answer to all of the confusion.

Thanks again for your review.
 
And student I have another request hereby. Since our school have not purchased the database of ICE including the journal of Geotechnique, it is not accessible for postgraduate student herein to read any one high level article including your work with the title of "A three-dimensional upper bound approach to slope stability analysis using rigid   滻椀琀攀 elements: improvement, veri揻愀琀椀漀渀 and application " (Geotechnique 2006;56(4):285–296). As my research interests focus on the three-dimensional slope stability analysis, the above article will play a critical role in my paper review. I am encouraged to ask for its PDF copy to its corresponding author, and hope that Dr. Cheng could do me a favor.

大牛没义务提供他论文里的参考文献,所以拒绝了我。因为我的邮件错误地把他当做了那文章的作者,又犯一个大错。我这种犯错频率再一次被谅解,实在是大牛的胸怀。
This paper is not by me. You can ask the corresponding professor

Dr. Cheng

接下来我向原作者Prof. YIN 要那篇文章。

Dear Prof. Yin
 
Sorry to disturb you and occupy your time skimming my email.
 
As a graduate student of geotechnics, I have a request hereby. Since our school have not purchased the database of ICE including the journal of Geotechnique, it is not accessible for postgraduate student herein to read any one high level article including your work with the title of "A three-dimensional upper bound approach to slope stability analysis using rigid  滻椀琀攀 elements: improvement, veri揻愀琀椀漀渀 and application " (Geotechnique 2006;56(4):285–296). As my research interests focus on the three-dimensional slope stability analysis, the above article will play a critical role in my paper review. I am encouraged to ask for its PDF copy to its corresponding author, and hope that Prof. Yin could do me a favor.

教授很耐心地回复了我,并且指出了我给他邮件里的困惑,把所有相关的三篇文章都作为附件传给了我。

Please see the attached files. I cannot find Geotechnique 2006;56(4):285–296).  

原来,他的文章在被引用是搞错了期号和页码,而我就根据被引的给他发了邮件,没有进一步地去源数据库检索。又一大错。 赶紧认错。

Dear Prof. Yin
 
Thanks very much for your sharing. The attachments includes both the english and chinese version of my intending article, which were published in Geotechiniques and 岩石力学与工程学报,respectively.
 
I am sorry to bring confusion to you for the pages of "Geotechnique 2006;56(4):285–296" that was cited in an article titled by "Limit equilibrium method based on an approximate lower bound method with a variable factor of safety that can consider residual strength"(Computers and Geotechnics, 38 (2011):623–637; see figure below)

When I search in ICE database, it is actually located by " Géotechnique, Volume 55, Issue 7, 01 September 2005 , pages 549 –556 ", which is the same as your attachment.  It is my carelessness that leads to the misunderstanding.
 
Thanks again for the help from prof. Yin and welcome your visit to Changsha, Hunan University.

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这是由一条参考文献引出的所有,我连续犯了三个错误。反省自己,如果没有大牛们的包容,真的是不知如何收场。希望给同学们借鉴一下,给大牛发邮件,还是要谨慎再谨慎。我想大牛们的包容也是有限度的。

想来如果公开邮件有涉及隐私等违法嫌疑,希望大家指正,我尽快处理。



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